We already tried national gun control in the U.S., and it was a complete failure.
Statistics compiled by gun control organizations show defensive gun uses in the U.S. exceed 60,000/year, while pro-gun organizations show over a million. A reasonable estimation is somewhere in the middle (on the order of hundreds of thousands/year), meaning guns save lives roughly 10x more often than they take them in crime.
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Look I’m sorry but I would much rather someone tries to go to a school and stab everyone than shoot everyone because with stabbing you’re gonna be lucky to get more than 3 people while the teachers jump you, with a gun you’re gonna be able to kill tons of people. It’s not right, and as someone who isn’t American I just find it baffling.
Like, yeah guns are still going to be in the country and imported illegally, but you set up as many preventatives as possible like Jesus Christ when was the last time you heard of a school shooting in Australia or UK? There has been eighteen in America in six weeks. There needs to be a line drawn. When will you finally see reason? How many kids are gonna die before you admit that there is a problem?
A knife attack in Taipei in 2014 had 4 deaths and 24 injuries.
A knife attack in China in 2004 killed 9 and injured 3.
Or maybe they’ll ditch knives and go for cars, like the Nice attack that killed 86 and injured over 400
Or maybe they’ll follow the lead of the Bath School Massacre, in which explosives and arson were used to rack up a kill count higher than any school shooting in America.
If you take away guns, you’ll do exactly NOTHING to stop mass murderers, but you’ll take away the ability for tens of thousands of innocent people to defend themselves.
>but Australia and the U.K.!!!!
I literally linked a source in the original post that showed there’s been absolutely no reduction in crime attributed to their gun control laws.
> eighteen in America in six weeks
So how many legal gun owners stepped up and stopped a shooting? Where are those numbers? Where’s the stats of all these gun toting heroes that we couldn’t dare stop or hinder in any form or fashion? You can buy any number of assault rifles or weapons within days with little to no licensing so why don’t we have more protectors and defenders stepping up to the plate when this happens? Let’s all come back to reality where kids are dying because any emotionally unstable person can walk on into a gun shop and murder people THAT DAY. When there were huge numbers of car fatalities from no seatbelts and no licensing, we didn’t insist that more people had to drive recklessly so drivers would get used to it???? We implemented legislation as a deterrent and we correctly enforce it and give our society the tools to properly understand and respect the power and danger of motor vehicles, are there still accidents? Yes, do people still kill people with cars? Yes. But it’s a fuck of a lot harder because we decided to DO SOMETHING. Instead of talking in ideological circles and hypotheticals about the “idea” of gun control. People are fucking dying and we need to do something to stop it, when you’re right to shoot fucking beer bottles off your back porch with an AR 15 is more important than my child’s life or the lives of your own children, that’s when we need to re address how we look at gun rights in America.
> So how many legal gun owners stepped up and stopped a shooting? Where are those numbers?
The vast majority of mas shootings occur in gun-free zones. When they don’t, they get stopped by armed civilians.
> You can buy any number of assault rifles or weapons within days with little to no licensing
Assault rifles, being by definition select-fire weapons, are covered by the National Firearms Act of 1934 and the Gun Control Act of 1986. Purchasing one requires approval of the ATF, an extensive background check, and paying an extra tax on top of the astronomically high cost of the gun itself (full-auto weapons start around $8000 for the absolute cheapest and run well into six-figures on the high end). In addition, several states ban them outright.
> When there were huge numbers of car fatalities from no seatbelts and no licensing
None of which is designed to limit the ability for ordinary citizens to own cars. This is not even remotely comparable to the laws being proposed for firearms, most of which have the explicitly stated goal of reducing gun ownership. Bonus fun fact: you don’t actually need a license to purchase or drive a car, only to drive one on public roads.
> Yes, do people still kill people with cars? Yes. But it’s a fuck of a lot harder because we decided to DO SOMETHING
How? In what possible way is it any harder to take a car and just drive down the sidewalk mowing people down?
> you’re right to shoot fucking beer bottles off your back porch with an AR 15
False, it’s not my right to shoot beer bottles, it’s my right to defend myself and my family. Pretending it’s anything else is incredibly disingenuous.